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  On 6/8/2019 at 1:53 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

I admit, I did watch Goldberg/Taker

I hear it was a shit show.

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>Firefly Funhouse

 

What the FUCK, man?

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A lot of people are giving Rollins shit, but I think his frustration is justified.  No matter what you think of WWE writing and booking, the majority of that roster busts their asses to try and make chicken salad out of chicken shit.  And they really came through at Stomping Grounds.  Perhaps Seth saying it's the best wrestling around is hyperbole, but they definitely have one of, if not the most impressive rosters on paper.

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I mean, it seems like he was directly asked about it.  I'm sure there's some bitterness because he wanted Dean to stay, though a lot of that kind of sounded like the typical WWE lip service, so it was probably a mix of him showing some of his bitterness while also not trying to bury the company he works for.

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It'd be different if Jon just up and quit but he gave plenty of notice. I guess Seth's just bitter/sad about losing his friend?

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Yeah, that's kinda how I take it.  Maybe he wanted more backup in trying to make the place great instead of bailing?  It's hard to tell, really.  But it seems the root of it is he's doing his best to make WWE a great place for wrestling, and he takes all the talk about WWE being shit personally.

 

I guess you can't really blame him considering he's supposed to be the face of WWE as Universal Champion.

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Seth's a pretty far-end WWE fanboy anyways. Those people have blinders on to the world outside of WWE. It probably doesn't compute to him why everyone wouldn't want to be in WWE.

 

Also the WWE itself as an entity and Vince in particular aren't known for looking at their flaws and figuring out how to correct them, they engage more in finding excuses and reasons outside of their control to explain things away. That likely filters down to their top guys too, and a fanboy like Seth is more likely to accept it because he already believes in them anyways.

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Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff to take over WWE TV(hired as executive directors under Vince)

 

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This....could be a really good thing.  I'm a bit cautiously optimistic, especially on the Bischoff side of things.  But huge news.

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Vince is still in charge so i'm not getting my hopes up too high, but this is huge news just the same.

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Yeah. Heyman especially tried to go around Vince the last time he was in charge of something and that's why they dropped him from creative in the first place.

 

On the one hand, you've got the problem of 50 year-old guys who were successful 20 years ago being put in charge, which half of WWE's problem is that they don't move on from 20 years ago.

 

On the other hand, god fucking damn I want to see what these guys can do with an increasingly frustrated/concerned Vince funding them.

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More info about the Bischoff/Heyman thing

 

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The announcement today that Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff have signed on with WWE to become Executive Directors of the Raw and Smackdown brands is a legitimate announcement, not a storyline situation.

 WWE has been pursuing Heyman to come on board officially in their corporate circles as far back as February, PWInsider.com can exclusively confirm.  An offer was issued to Heyman to come on board full-time as a top member of the creative team around the same time Bruce Prichard was brought back as a Senior Vice President but the conversations were slow in progressing.  Heyman had been working on certain storylines and with certain talents, including Ronda Rousey, Brock Lesnar, Alexa Bliss and many others dating back far before that point.  He's been in the inner circle when it comes to the creative process for some time without an official title.  He and WWE have been circling around this deal for a long time and finally came to terms recently.

 The Eric Bischoff deal came together within the last several weeks.  Bischoff has been working on pre-production of the planned Netflix Hulk Hogan biography film and had a slew of personal appearances booked.  Over the last week, he quietly began canceling those appearance dates, so that is likely when he came to official terms with WWE.  We are told he will be working directly with FOX as WWE builds their relationship with Smackdown's new home.  To say this is a massive return to form for Bischoff is a grand understatement.  We are told that WWE approached him about the role and that his previous work in collaborating with Turner Broadcasting. Spike and other networks in building past TV series was one of the reasons Bischoff was pitched for the position. 

We are told that they will be overseeing all aspects of their individual series, answering directly to Vince McMahon.  They are now the top of the pyramid, respectively, for Raw and Smackdown but obviously McMahon will always have the last say.  One WWE source compared their roles to Paul Levesque's in NXT in that they will be in charge, but it's still Vince's company.

Heyman is expected to continue his role as Brock Lesnar's advocate. There is no word yet whether Bischoff will appear on camera, but given how good of a performer he is, one would think it's just a matter of time.

 

 

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I'm cautiously optimistic as well. Especially if that bolded part about them essentially being what HHH is to NXT is true. 

 

Even if it isn't, I feel like if there's any chance of Vince being open to some changes, it's probably from those two. 

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My body is fucking ready

 

The thing I'm 100% the most curious on: How is Heyman going to handle the Raw third hour.

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End 205 Live, 3rd hour is all cruiserweights.

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  On 6/27/2019 at 6:04 PM, MT said:

End 205 Live, 3rd hour is all cruiserweights.

This would actually be brilliant.  Dunno if it would help ratings, but it would keep me watching.

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Now there's rumours that 205 Live will be done by the end of the year, and that Hunter's stepping away from main-roster backstage to focus on NXT (and conquering the rest of the indies/monopolizing the industry in other countries)

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205 live doesn't help anybody whatsoever.

 

It's interesting that given their respective roles it appears Raw might finally become the wrestling brand (although slightly sad that Smackdown would become the TV show brand). But Bischoff usually makes good TV (I liked TNA during the Hogan era, shoot me. It was good TV just meh level wrestling).

 

Listening to their Inside The Ropes chats, they do still have a great mind for the business and its evolutions, unlike say, a Russo or a Cornette.

 

Fuck, Heyman had me believing Brock Lesnar intentionally concussed Taker as retribution for beating CM Punk and turned me into a complete mark about a 5/6 year old angle the other night. I'll buy whatever he's selling.

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  On 7/1/2019 at 10:44 PM, Garlic Junior said:

205 live doesn't help anybody whatsoever.

 

It's interesting that given their respective roles it appears Raw might finally become the wrestling brand (although slightly sad that Smackdown would become the TV show brand). But Bischoff usually makes good TV (I liked TNA during the Hogan era, shoot me. It was good TV just meh level wrestling).

 

That era of TNA won an Observer Award for best weekly show, so you weren't the only one

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Anyone watching RAW?  The show definitely feels different so far.

 

-Started with the Falls Count Anywhere match

-Big spot where Strowman and Lashley went through the stage setup and caused a bunch of explosions(a bit silly), but then had a pretty realistic, under-produced camera angle covering the fallout.

-Corey Graves saying "Holy Shit" on commentary with no bleep

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DVR'ing and probs gonna start in 2 hours just in case the show still sucks

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I started watching after that, but just stopped during the Seth and Becky interview bit. It was just painful listening to the two of them.

 

But apparently they were interrupted, so that's good.

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Yeah, after the first 30 or so minutes, it started turning into a bit more standard fare, but the first hour went by really quick and the overall production still feels different.  Also, no in-ring promos for like the first hour and a half.

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We ended up watching around 60 minutes (out of about 120ish without commercials) of it instead of the usual 15-20 we've been doing the last few months, so that's at least progress. Though I did give a lot of segments more of a shot than I normally would've specifically because of the creative regime change.

 

I liked the promos, so-so on the storyline stuff, they really need to get rid of that fucking "No wrestling in commercials" shit, beginning of the show was classic Heyman but there's only so much of that stuff you can do, end of the show was sorta cool and sorta not

 

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  On 7/2/2019 at 3:18 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

We ended up watching around 60 minutes (out of about 120ish without commercials) of it instead of the usual 15-20 we've been doing the last few months, so that's at least progress. Though I did give a lot of segments more of a shot than I normally would've specifically because of the creative regime change.

 

I liked the promos, so-so on the storyline stuff, they really need to get rid of that fucking "No wrestling in commercials" shit, beginning of the show was classic Heyman but there's only so much of that stuff you can do, end of the show was sorta cool and sorta not

 

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Yeah, the whole show wasn't perfect storyline was.  But there was a marked difference in the overall production of the show.  Promos cut directly into the camera, a reserved, but notable use of cuss words on commentary, trying new weird angles whether they work or not, and most importantly, a lot less in-ring mic time and more of a focus on the action and the in-ring stories.  I do think there was a lot of flat stuff as a result of ongoing angles that need to be worked through, so hopefully starting more fresh angles will alleviate that.

 

It's a start, so we'll see if they can keep the momentum and not derail if things take a minute to really hit home.

 

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Oh, and totally agreed on the "no commercial break" thing.  Like I said on another forum, they've found a creative way around it this week, but it's already worn thin.  I'd much rather just have commercial breaks like normal.

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  On 7/2/2019 at 3:42 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

 

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Apparently they're going edgier now to make sure teens don't get into AEW.

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Last night's Raw was pretty bad. Heyman's worst traits (bad '90s soap opera storylines) and some of Vince's recent worst traits.

 

As soon as a match gets restarted, I skip the rest of it (though I did stick around for Ricochet vs the Guns n Gallows because I like those two guys a lot). Most of the time WWE does it, feels like they wasted my time on purpose presenting one thing only to flip around and present another, usually lesser thing (singles match I want to see turns into a 6-man tag or something). All these 2/3 fall matches (CMLL does them better so I can't even get into them from the novelty perspective because I see tons of them every week) and all the excuses to not have wrestling in commercials needs to go. Just stop having regular commercials/have regular commercials during set times like actual sports do, or go back to what it was before.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 5:26 AM, MT said:

 

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The PPV was actually pretty great as a whole, easily one of their top 3 of the year. Lots of matches were a lot better than they had any business being. Worth watching. Don't let the final moment ruin it for you. 

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Oh I wasn't going to watch it anyway. The only thing i'm semi interested in is Cesaro/Black. The rest can suck it.

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Extreme Rules

 

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I only ended up watching Black/Cesaro,  half of AJ/Ricochet (too long, or maybe the quiet crowd made it feel too long) and the finishes of the WWE and Universal Title matches.

 

G1 season and AEW all on the same weekend = WWE's getting sacrificed

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Did end up watching more Raw than I thought I would

 

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  On 7/16/2019 at 1:53 AM, Psycho666Soldier said:

You ought to give the Triple Threat Tag a watch.  That was MOTN for me.

 

Agreed, but I'd even add Strowman/Lashley to that. I really wasn't interested in that match at all and ended up loving it. 

 

 

  On 7/16/2019 at 3:30 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

Did end up watching more Raw than I thought I would

 

 

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It was absolutely beautiful. :rotfl: 

 

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  On 7/16/2019 at 3:20 PM, Blackjak said:

 

Agreed, but I'd even add Strowman/Lashley to that. I really wasn't interested in that match at all and ended up loving it.

I'd second that.  I actually loved that match, too.

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Gentleman Jack vs Chad Gable on 205 was awesome :nod:

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I had heard that it was fantastic from multiple places. Finally watched. Holy shit it did not disappoint. :drool::rip: 

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I had two dream scenarios for last night and neither happened

 

Scenario A

 

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I don't know what gives you the idea Scenario B would ever happen.  Scenario A felt like such a lock, too...

 


 

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