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It's gotten to the point where if Sept rolls around and there's a news report on the people who showed up for the Area 51 raid and Bad Luck Fale and Chase Owens aren't there in their wrestling gear, I'm going to be disappointed

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Ishii v Mox... there was a lot of stuff I liked.

 

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But was it Match Of The Tournament? No. Not even the best match I've watched this past two hours.

 

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Actually, the more I think about it, two spots aside and pacing (which was on point) aside, I actually don't think this was a "good" match. Weird.

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  On 7/25/2019 at 8:28 PM, Death Rider Mox said:

Big Dave gave the 5 star treatment to Ibushi vs Ospreay on Night 5 and Ishii vs Moxley from Night 6, and 5.75 for Ospreay v Okada from Night 7. Moxley's first 5-star match

 

I was happy just reading your write up of 7. But if it's a 5.75 I feel I HAVE to watch it.

 

Is it THAT good?

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  On 8/11/2019 at 8:42 PM, Garlic Junior said:
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Actually, the more I think about it, two spots aside and pacing (which was on point) aside, I actually don't think this was a "good" match. Weird.

 

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  On 8/11/2019 at 10:33 PM, Garlic Junior said:

 

I was happy just reading your write up of 7. But if it's a 5.75 I feel I HAVE to watch it.

 

Is it THAT good?

 

You were gonna skip Ospreay vs Okada?

 

Absolutely worth watching.

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I have some matches I'm coming back to but I'm really just trying to sprint through the shit I KNOW I'll love.

 

I love Osprey and Okada individually but I dunno, that night just didn't seem urgent. Will watch it.

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  On 7/28/2019 at 10:20 PM, Death Rider Mox said:

Night 10

 

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Mox v Naito was da bomb.

 

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It's funny watching G1 in such a binge. I notice this every time I do it. So many spots or general feels get repeated every show.

 

Chair play. Headbutting your way out of a punch. Mox taking to the crowd. Just little notes repeated. I guess it's tough to create so much great wrestling so uniquely in such a short period of time.

  On 7/30/2019 at 3:26 PM, MT said:

Toru Yano is the best

 

 

 

Okay, I HATE English commentary. Hate it. Fucking B grade Mauro thinking he's so smart with his allusions to WWE. "Uh, he's been in a CAGE for years". Fucking Rocky "I sound exactly like Juice Robinson dewwwwwd". Fucking fuck them.

 

But "Everything's coming up Yano" was a good call. Made me lol.

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  On 8/11/2019 at 11:37 PM, Garlic Junior said:

 

Ibushi v SANADA was really really good. What's the Nakamura connection?

 

Nakamura was Ibushi's primary rival when he moved to Heavyweight, the guy Ibushi was chasing. They only wrestled twice (once in the G1 when Ibushi was still a Junior I think, and the 5-star at Wrestle Kingdom, Nakamura won both times), Shinsuke would bully him a bit because they have similar kick-boxing style backgrounds, Ibushi would show no fear and give it back to him. Nakamura left, Ibushi started using the Bomaye

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May need to watch those two matches soon. Seems a bit of a loose connection though.

 

Man, Night 12 was my jam. Everything I love about NJPW in Yano v Moxley and Naito v Juice. Comedy, grit, character work. Naito's ear looks NASTY.

 

God damn that nasally fucking "DESSTTIII-II-II-NNNOOOOOOO" fucking call though. Fuck English commentary. Fuck it sideways.

 

If you can be bothered working it out so I'm not spoiled, can you gimme a list of what the scores were by the end of Day 12 please? I wanna watch the rest tomorrow with full context.

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  On 8/12/2019 at 12:46 AM, Garlic Junior said:

1. May need to watch those two matches soon. Seems a bit of a loose connection though.

 

2.If you can be bothered working it out so I'm not spoiled, can you gimme a list of what the scores were by the end of Day 12 please? I wanna watch the rest tomorrow with full context. ?

 

1. It was backed up in promos and stuff too, wasn't just random.

 

2. Here we go. The sidebar doesn't appear to give results away

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G1 Final/Match

 

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  On 8/4/2019 at 1:05 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

Night 13 Rest of the event

 

 

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  On 8/3/2019 at 12:52 PM, Death Rider Mox said:

BTW, the first G1 Final between Keiji Mutoh and Masahiro Chono is Free on NJPWWorld, shit's awesome old-school wrestling (and not unlike Tanahashi matches are today)

 

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Watching the double-main first before I pass out, I'll do the rest later

 

 

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  On 8/5/2019 at 4:10 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

Night 14

 

 

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So if I'm reading the booking right/predictions

 

 

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Fredericks actually got a lot of offense in wtf. Who is he?

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Fredericks and Connors are LA Dojo Young Boys.

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Ye I get that but like... connected at all?

 

 

 

 

  On 8/4/2019 at 12:51 PM, Death Rider Mox said:

Night 14 Last Two Matches (I'll watch the rest later)

 

 

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Reason #6,935 why I love Japanese refs

 

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Ohhhh. No connection beyond Fredericks having obvious top-guy potential (looks + athleticism). This is their first Japanese tour and they made a point to make sure he locked up with Okada, that tells me they see it in him too.

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  On 8/8/2019 at 6:29 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

Night 15

 

 

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Yano and Fale tag team when? Technical wrestling out the yazoo.

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  On 8/9/2019 at 6:14 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

Okada/Sanada from 08.03, Naito/Shingo from 08/04, and Ishii/Shingo from this show pulled 5 stars (Ishii/Shingo with the 5.5)

 

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ISHII VS SHINGO YOSHHHHHH

 

 

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One of my favourite overall days tbh

 

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Have you heard the arguments Dave has made about "breaking" the star rating system?

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No? Do share.

 

I'm super tired and burned out from binging so much aha. Luckily everyone is so fire this year. Goto, Okada, Ibushi, Naito fucking with Jay White.

 

I've made it to the block finals in the space of two days essentially :rotfl: I'm watching the final Final in the morning.

 

Avoided spoilers too somehow...

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The o/g star rating system only went to 4, Cornette (who has done a surprising amount to destroy the kayfabe he holds so dear) originally suggested to the person who was doing one of the first wrestling newsletters and all of the others started copying it. Dave first broke the 4-star system with a 5-star rating for Tiger Mask vs Dynamite Kid in 1983, then broke the 5-star system with a 6-star rating for Kawada vs Misawa in 1994 (I think there was another match, maybe a Joshi match that was listed as "5+++++" or something like that). The rating system isn't meant to be out-of-5, but has no upper limits if the things that wrestlers do and the stories they tell significantly surpass what came before.

 

I've also heard it said that a 5 is a Match-of-the-Year candidate, a 6 is a Match-of-the-Decade candidate, a 7 is century/greatest match ever/etc. His 5+ star matches are basically saying "this is almost match of the decade, but not quite."

 

Or it's like you say, jumped the shark and now the system has moved upwards so his 5-star matches are really 4.5-star matches and his 5+ star matches have to be differentiated somehow out of the 10-20 matches that get 5s the last few years because he fucking loves the current style of wrestling and can't help himself

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Yeah, that all makes sense, but I still think a 5 should be SPECIAL, y'know?

 

And anything above that, man, did it touch Omega v Okada? Hart v Austin? Will people really, genuinely, be discussing Ospreay v Okada in a year's time? A month's?

 

I don't care, dude can do whatever he likes, I'm just a fan of posterity and think there should be a differentiation between "If you are looking for a classic match from the 2010s, watch this" and "This is a style of match I enjoy between two wrestlers I personally like".

 

Anyway, more importantly, I think the greatest character growth of this tournament has been Jay White's beard. From a scrappy late teen's patchy, with ginger highlights, attempt of a beard to full on, black, moustache, just short enough to look like a proper douchebag prick. It's been great long-term booking.

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  On 8/12/2019 at 2:45 PM, Death Rider Mox said:

G1 Final/Rest of the Card

 

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Man this card lived up!

 

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ZSJ working Tana's guilt to submit him through kindness

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  On 8/12/2019 at 11:21 AM, Death Rider Mox said:

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He totally doesn't care about anything but the contest in front of him. If his matches themselves weren't so intense I'd almost say he's Tranquilo. Instead, he's more like a large, excitable puppy.....

 

Imma rename my dog Kota now.

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